Summary: New migration routes and methods, such as arriving via Spain, raise questions about human rights and asylum claims. The effectiveness of deterrents, like being sent to Rwanda or a barge, in curbing migration remains uncertain. Border security measures and the sophistication of migrant networks contribute to the evolving dynamics of migration. Labour's historical track record suggests potential for more effective management of returns and migration balances. The challenges and complexities of managing migration and asylum claims pose significant policy dilemmas. ...

The British public have ‘changed their minds’ on migration since Brexit I'm saying Brexit and the 2019 elections were predicated on people's views on migration generally, but particularly legal migration. But we have actually got data that says that, you know, attitudes are changing significantly. Let's take the Ruranda aspect of this, for example, mentioned in your thoughts on that as a policy, because it seems to have two question marks one is practicality is ever actually going to move many people to Rwanda? And secondly, is it going to be palatable to law if we remain in the European Convention on Human Rights? Both of those two questions, I think will come up in the House of Lords. Are they right to push back on Rwanda, do you think? Well, I think it's right for them to challenge the concepts behind the bill, whether they are right to actually challenge the policy...